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Human CAPTCHA services cost money don't they? Not a lot but like-- pennies. Reed is saying you could have your program generate a new model by taking the word of the thing they ask you to identify and scraping Google images to get training data. |
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James Fallows |
The demise of Google Reader, if logical, is a reminder of how far we've come from the cuddly old 'I'm Feeling Lucky' Google days, in which there was a foreseeably-astonishing delight in the way Google's evolving design tricks anticipated what users would like. |
Bernard Ebbers |
Our communications services revenue growth is being driven by continued strong top-line performance in data, Internet and international - three of the fastest growing and most profitable areas within communications services. |
Leos Carax |
My films start with images, a few images and a few feelings, and I try to edit them together to see the correspondence between these images and these feelings. |
Gilbert K. Chesterton |
The object of a New Year is not that we should have a new year. It is that we should have a new soul and a new nose; new feet, a new backbone, new ears, and new eyes. Unless a particular man made New Year resolutions, he would make no resolutions. Unless a man starts afresh about things, he will certainly do nothing effective. |
Tamsin Egerton |
I did model for a little while part-time, but I wasn't a bloody model, and I am definitely not that horrible thing 'model-turned-actress.' |
Henrik Ibsen |
Your home is regarded as a model home, your life as a model life. But all this splendor, and you along with it... it's just as though it were built upon a shifting quagmire. A moment may come, a word can be spoken, and both you and all this splendor will collapse. |
Robert Darnton |
In 2002, Google began an ambitious project to digitize every book in the world. It was intended as a search project: type in a query, and Google would show you snippets. They asked university libraries for books, which they would scan for free. At Harvard we didn't permit them to take works under copyright, but other libraries gave them everything. |
Jason Calacanis |
Mahalo's business model is advertising. Yahoo, Google, Ask, AOL and MSN are all advertising-based. So I don't see anything wrong with advertising-based search. |
Dan Farmer |
I can write a program that lets you break the copy protection on a music file. But I can't write a program that solders new connections onto a chip for you. |
Chinua Achebe |
Once you allow yourself to identify with the people in a story, then you might begin to see yourself in that story even if on the surface it's far removed from your situation. This is what I try to tell my students: this is one great thing that literature can do - it can make us identify with situations and people far away. |
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they sure have. however a lot of these captchas are pretty hard for even a human to distinguish whether there is a street sign or a storefront in an image, plus its not just the same things your looking for every time.
almost every major captcha breaking service uses humans to break it tho. they just send snapshots of the request to works and get it sent back and POST it.
One seo guy i worked with set up a system to post the captcha data to his back end and employed dozens of craigslist workers to solve them for money but didnt really pay them, so he had tons of people solving captchas all da...
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This is interesting. I would think Google would know better than to give an easy image classification problem. It's not difficult now to grab someone else's code and train pretty accurate models. I'm sure they have models to do the same thing. I wonder if what they're doing is showing us the examples that their models get wrong.
The mouse movement CAPTCHA is interesting too. I could definitely record my mouse movements for a week or so and then build a model to emulate those movements.
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China Says it Cloned a Police Dog To Speed Up Training
A cloned dog, believed to be the first of the kind in China, has started training in Yunnan Province in a program to reduce the cost and time needed for training police dogs. From a report:
Kunxun, a female of the Kunming wolfdog breed, was born on Dec. 19 last year in Beijing and arrived on March 5 for training at the Kunming Police Dog Base of the Ministry of Public Security. She was cloned from a 7-year-old female dog, known as Huahuangma, that has been in service in the city of Pu'er, Yunnan, by Sinogene, a Beijing-based biotechnol...
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its important we take the word 'need' out of our vocabulary when it comes to money. we dont need money in any form, and saying so even when we dont mean it, ingrains it into our mind. however, despite wanting the money that i get from my job - i cant help but feel like i have something better to be doing
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now that my list of product ids is in the millions and ive used about 40gb of proxy bandwidth scraping maybe 50k pages from that data, i have to carefully weigh out how much i want to spend on proxies (spent about $30) on this experiment that could result in just a simple takedown notice to stop the method. granted i can always reuse and modify this data. but i guarantee if you had a million page site based directly around real ecommerce products you would make good money if it stays up
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Researchers Fool ReCAPTCHA With Google's Own Speech-To-Text Service
Researchers at the University of Maryland have managed to trick Google's reCaptcha system by using Google's own speech-to-text service. "[The researchers] claim that their CAPTCHA-fooling method, unCaptcha, can fool Google's reCaptcha, one of the most popular CAPTCHA systems currently used by hundreds of thousands of websites, with a 90 percent success rate," reports Motherboard. From the report: The researchers originally developed UnCaptcha in 2017, which uses Google's own free speech-to-text service to trick the system into thinking a robot is a human. It's an oroborus of bots: According to their paper, UnCaptcha downl...
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Google Works Out a Fascinating, Slightly Scary Way For AI To Isolate Voices In a Crowd
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/google-works-out-a-fascinating-slightly-scary-way-for-ai-to-isolate-voices-in-a-crowd/
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Ars Technica: Google researchers have developed a deep-learning system designed to help computers better identify and isolate individual voices within a noisy environment. As noted in a post on the company's Google Research Blog this week, a...
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It seems like the way to go is just to have a huge variety of different possible captchas, but I would think that once you have more than a couple bots working together to build models not even that would hold up forever. Abstractly, though, doesn't it boil down to this - Is there a set of problems that a human can answer easily and a computer cannot, but the computer can still recognize a correct answer easily? My instinct is that as soon as you define that set you can build a machine to generate solutions. But I guess the answer to the real question of whether it's worth it depends on if you can build a machine that builds machines that generate solutions. And I think for just the images alone the answer is probably yes - audio/video I'm less sure about.
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I used to think that if you ate pennies a money tree would grow inside of your stomach. Now i know that the universe makes way less sense than that.
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Scientists Train AI To Learn People's Voices, Then Generate Their Faces
An neural network named "Speech2Face" was trained by scientists on millions of educational videos from the internet that showed over 100,000 different people talking. From this dataset, Speech2Face learned associations between vocal cues and certain physical features in a human face, researchers wrote in a new study. The AI then used an audio clip to model a photorealistic face matching the voice, and the results are surprisingly close to the actual faces of the people whose voices it listened to. The faces generated by Speech2Face didn't precisely match the people behind the voices. But the images did usually capture the correct age ranges, ethnicities and genders of the individuals, according to the study. ...
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